what makes a real slave, when she knows in her heart of hearts, when she can no longer deny the fact, is the kiss of the branding iron....no slave feels more slave than when she is branded,
hmm..
Your words are something to think about. It is not anything I have no heard before. But it is something I do disagree with. I think the mun has very much right to complain. As it is their char that is enslaved. While granted they have agreeed to thses conditions, the remain with certin rights, while the slave does not. Do no assume that I am simply saying that everytime , something happens to a slave that a mun does not like, that mun consent may be cryed. But many times we have an idea of where something is going before it happens. I feel that then it is within the muns right that if they are not confortable to speak up about it. Now this is entierly different as in cases which we have all seen. Were something will be played out, and then the mun will later cry mun consent over what has happened. This I am highly against. As you allow yourself and your charater to be placed in the situation, and you have played through it, thus it is now your obligation which you consteneted to in going through with it that you finish what you have begun.
what makes a slave
I see that comments on the branding iron are few, is it that redalex speaks the truth? Not even the masters have made a comment to redalex. Does she not speak the truth. I am branded, I am whole, I am slave.
Re: what makes a slave
Any human being that would wilfully mutalate themselves with a permanent brand, burn, is mentally ill.
I am the only one here, and I bet on many other gorean sites, that actually has the power to legally suspend a persons freedom. Actually has the power of a Master to take away a persons rights completely, legally.
I would have no qualm about commiting an individual that was contemplating being mutalated in such a way, and I would not have a problem getting another Doctor to concur.
Re: what makes a slave
What about those folks who are fond of decorating their bodies with tattoos and/or piercings? Are they also, in your opinion Sha, mentally ill? I've been told that these things also hurt when first applied but that doesn't seem to detract from their popularity. Hmmm.....
You know I'm both pierced and have tattoos. Though not all tattoos and piercings hurt, some do. Ouch ::remembering::. Come on don't make a blanket statement. You know i'm your friend.
One thing I would never do is a brand. I have one of those on my inner lower leg due to touching the tail pipe of a motorcycle and would never subject myself to that on purpose. LoL
I didn't see any blanket statement by Sha. He was quite specific when he referred to being mutilated WITH A BRAND as far as being mentally-ill. Where did the piercings and tattoos come in?
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(1/21/01 20:33) Reply
Exactly
Where did I mention tatoos or piercings?
Which are culturally acceptable, for the most part. Yet most if not all cultures do not take it to the point of mutilation.
But saying that, people that mutilate themselves with piercings or tatoos are mentally ill.
By mutilate I mean those that have their entire bodies tattoo{?}ed, or those that have multiple piercings, as in dozens and dozens.
What is the difference between the troubled teen that carves their initials into their arm with a compass point and one that accepts a searing burn or fills their face with steel? There is an underlying reason for such abnormal actions.
There are many papers written about the different psychosis that lead people to do this to themselves. I am sure I do to need to type them all out here.
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(1/22/01 13:09) Reply
Re: Oh yeah?
You count three?
Really how immature of you yet again loco, I am sure that marissa can vouch that I am posting here as one person, as I have always done. As she too can see all of our I.P. addresses, she would be the first person to call me on it, as you have seen above.
I'd say that you and ndn are one and the same except I can see the i.p. addresses and you can spell a bit better.
As for the papers try the Lancet site or the AMA site or any myriad of medical sites, hell try going to your local library for the first time in your life.
You want me to photocopy and mail you the journal and text articles cough up some change for the copy machine.
Re: Oh yeah?
Dean....... I don't deny that i believe you only post as one person....
but..... ::leans in and whispers::: for some reason it's not allowing me to enter your customization pages. It's weird. I wanted to look just to state for a fact and prove what i know to be true, but i can't obtain it. Can you please look into that for me?
Thanks,
Melissa
NOW i SEE where the IP Adresses are. LoL. Opps, my error.
Edited by: la Marissa at: 1/23/01 6:51:53 pm
Re: Oh yeah?
Wats rong wit m' spellin? Heres a lil english lessun fer you. Propur nowns r suppost ta be captulized. Romuv yer rose callared specticuls and open a windr so the smoke will cleer and maybe yull see thangs mo' better.
A slave is owned and held to a masters will.A master is a Freeman who holds her to his will.
Let my name stand among those who are willing to bear ridicule and reproach for the truth's sake, and so earn some right to rejoice when the victory is won.
--Louisa May Alcott--
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(3/24/01 12:26) Reply
Re: so tell us what makes a slave?
K? Where the Hell does that saying come from.
My FoxTrot cartoon has the same damn thing, "All your base belong to us".
Re: so tell us what makes a slave?
My openinion is in a Gorean sense and not too focused on Real Time wise.
I find this actually very easy to answer, perhaps, because I am just learning in my roleplay what makes a slave.
A gorean slave will attempt to serve her Master or House, selflessly. She will strive hard to achieve to become exactly what her Master invisions and anticipates to serve him no matter what circumstances surround her. As to be exceptional beautiful, for example I find that if a Master wishes for his slave girl to, lets say, assume the modelity of an animal that is of an unattractive nature, she will become exceptional beautiful in fascinating him by her accomplishment to become such. She will not serve her own needs, it is of no importance to how she feels, her goal is to achieve the complete selfless service to her Master. Now, she perhaps will not always flourish in such, for everyone has selfish feelings, but she will do anything to accomplish those goals so she can please her Master. She does not expect praise of any kind, nor does she expect to be given anything in return of her service. She will show her joy in what she is given and take great pride in everything she does.
For an Real Time slave, I can not really comment. I once thought that there is such things as real time slaves, but if you go by the definition of what makes a slave that I stated, thus would be impossible. We live in a society, which prevents such from taking place. The moment we make adjustment to accomidate the slave's needs in order to function into the live of todays society, we also alter the true meaning of slave and therefore at best would have a submissive and not a slave. Submissives have choices, slaves do not.
I do believe that many women and men have a deep desire to be a slave and in their minds such would be perfect, but if we were to place the gorean aspect into real life, we would have a rude awakening. I for example, would not allow another person to take over my finances. I could name many more examples in which I would not permit for another person to take over for me, for the simple fact that I have to preserve my security. This post is not directed to disrespect any of the real time slaves, it simply is a post that speaks of my own experience and what I have learned and what makes sense to me. I believe that women or men at best are submissives.
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