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Detia1
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(11/21/01 8:17 pm)
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The Superandroid process
Anybody have any ideas about the superandroid process? As in how long it would take and the different levels of modifications?

Chajo 
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(11/22/01 12:09 am)
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Hmm Not sure. I know Phantom has the basic 'Civilian' model. *L* Sounds like we're talking about cars or computers

Chajo AKA Phantom

StarshineMLP 
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(11/22/01 10:53 pm)
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Personal opinion is that it's a biotechnological process. the movement of the Hawks is so smooth, it's as if the metal is a living parts of their bodies. A biometal, if you will.

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Blackhawk
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(6/1/02 3:15 pm)
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The Superandroid process
I don't think it's correct to refer to the Hawks as androids. Androids are all machine. Since the Hawks are partly metal, partly real, that would classify them as cyborgs. I've always personally felt that it's armor, that they're real bodies are intact underneath, but it's a long process to remove/don, so it's kept on for convinience sake. It would also make sense for the armor to be like the "variable skeletal muscles" from Battle Angel Alita. Metal fibers that can bend and flex with it's wearer, unlike bulky plate armor. Also for things like heel jets and shoulder lasers, the armor must somehow be connected to the Hawks' neurological systems, so they can use them just by thinking.

Detia1
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(6/1/02 3:41 pm)
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I agree with the term cyborg...always wondered why they called them superandroids on the show...I mean they are part machine, part flesh, so supercyborg would be more appropriate.

Blackhawk
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(6/2/02 5:59 pm)
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The Superandroid process
I don't remember the Hawks being refered to as superandroids. What episode were they called that? Origin Story? Guess I'll have to go watch it again.

Moonhawke 
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(6/2/02 7:30 pm)
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I think it was Origin Story...Or the original opening voice over. Something about "Muscles of machines, and the hearts and minds of men." I'dhave to look again myself.

MH-

Tehk Khatt
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(8/24/02 6:08 pm)
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In the fan fics I do they can transform back and forth from their human forms. Of course theres no cool transformation pose.
The processs saturates the Silver Hawks with nanoprobes. In their human forms they can do anything that they would normally do. The armour appears for them when ever it's wanted and needed at will.
In the show however there was a machine that changed their molecular structure from flesh to metal. I don't remember the name

It would much more fun I'd think if they could either have removable armour like a Hard Suit in Bubble Gum Crisis (an anime) or if they could transfom back and forth for human to armouredform. Or another possiblity of having something like spandax that one can put on and it would be like a liquid metal when put on as it forms around the person's body then would turn to a solid stage when on the person but could be removed too.

Chajo 
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(8/24/02 7:34 pm)
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I like the idea and way we created it for the MU. If you have ever seen 'The Invisible Man' from the Sci-Fi channel, we use the 'Quicksilver' method where it comes from glands under the skin.

I also like the idea MoonHawke & Lady Razorsharp used for their Cronicles Universe. If I rememebr correctly, the first was that they had it grafted some how to the nerves themselves, later on, (Second Gen) they used a proceess that implanted a special control disk & used ultra thin suites under the removable armor.

((Did I get it correct MH?))

PhantomChajo
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Zannatasia Izzabella Vernadeau / Phantom
(Duchess of Huntington / Limbo Courier Silverhawks)
Phantom Shadownyte (The Red-headed Drow of AD&D)
Johnny 'GypsyCat' LeFleaur (Young Mutant - Marvel universe)
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Moonhawke 
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(8/24/02 7:40 pm)
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More or less. I 'borrowed' a bit from BGC myself (the arming suit mentioned in Project: Firstlight), and the team all ended up at one point being switched over, except for Stargazer, as the prototype unit, whose compression was permanent...

I have to admit i'm fond of hte MU method myself. I liked Invisible Man, and watching the quicksilver ppour over his skin was cool.

MH-

TheTraveler007
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(9/28/02 9:47 am)
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ok people what about e.m.p.shock wave.like out of the matrix does this stop or render the hawk dead or dearomered please let me have your opion on this

Blackhawk
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(9/28/02 1:57 pm)
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For the most part I think an electromagnetic pulse would render the hawks immobile, since it would be increadibly difficult to move that kind of heavy armor with out any kind of power. The exception is the twins, who have mechanical hearts and could wind up with a bad case of dead.

Moonhawke 
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(9/29/02 1:01 am)
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Is there anything that shields against EMP? If *I* were designing those thing, I know I'd try to work it in. One handy nuke and *BLAM!* Dead in space, like BH says.

I originally put the thing together (when I had to really sit down and think about it) by borrowing a chunk out of Bubblegum Crisis (for those not familiar with it, a bunch of girls in kick-a$$ armor with guns up the wazoo taking on rampaging robots called boomers) The "hardsuits" are controlled using a skin-tight bodysuit that has electrodes to pick up, enhance and communicatemuscle action to the suit's computer. I paired it, in Aurora's case in particular (she was the prototype, of course) with some minor internal modifications, leaving her basically human with a few extra bits.

ANYWAY, I imagine those bits would be vulnerable to EMP, leaving the suit's wearer stuck should things malfunction. Looks like it's back to the drawingboard on that one, eh? Maybe some kind of EM shielding.

(Hey, Chajo...I imagine Zan, post-"Kiss" would be seriously vulnerable as well...)

MH-

PS Nathan (Mr. MoonHawke) points out that anything flying in space is by definition radiation shielded, and therefore, EMP is not much to worry about.

Blackhawk
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(9/29/02 2:25 am)
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I'm not sure anything that can block an EMP, but it's quite possible that the Hawks armor, would most likely have some sort emergency reset to counter something like that. And now that I think about it, the vacuum of space would probably shield against an EMP. Since it's a shockwave, and there's nothing to channel the vibrations in space, it wouldn't be able to travel. I think. Of course space in Limbo isn't exactly a vacuum... *sigh* goofy cartoon physics.

Chajo 
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(9/29/02 5:19 am)
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*Snerks!!* Oh yeah. She deffinatly would be. Err.. well to a point anyways. End up stuck in a wheelchair untill it was fixed again, Unlike Will who would end up Dead.

*LOL* the traverler (AKA BF - Rich) was like "Aw Sh*t! Now I got to re-think something. Oh that sucks!" when he read BH's post. The fun of Physics *G* Gotta love em!


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Zannatasia Izzabella Vernadeau / Phantom
(Duchess of Huntington / Limbo Courier Silverhawks)
Johnny 'GypsyCat' LeFleaur (Young Mutant - Marvel universe)
(and many others!)

TheTraveler007
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(9/30/02 12:11 pm)
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ok people I had to go look it up in some old dusty tomes called cyber punk. this old r.p.g. game books have some new toys for me to use and one is a emp grenade( used primarly for boomer typ bots) and the sheilding that they use is a volconized lead metel that is abil to take so much of the radiation then must be removed or the person starts to get radiation poisoning.If the suits were made of this then they could take a dose of emp or stronger stuff and then must have the sheilding removed or some sort of radiation treatment afterwerd

Tehk Khatt
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(10/9/02 1:05 pm)
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Re: The Superandroid process
I LOVE Cyberpunk.
I would think that in the 29th century they would be able to have something to shield emp pulses.

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