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WiccanWade
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(8/9/03 11:24 am)
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Researching Eviddence for The Goddess in The Bible...
Greetings:

Now, I am not a CHristian Witch, just the "usual" (whatever that is) Wiccan Witch variety. Anyway, I am researching for a book I'd like to write, and have a few questions. Well...that is I'm looking for very well respected and researched books, very scholarly, etc. I'm also looking for the evidence from mistranslations, and where to find that the Holy Spirit might be feminine, et al. Here's something I've posted to another Group, essentially asking the same thing:

[Here are some "recommended reading" from the Christian Wiccan homepage. However, I do not know if it is a complete listing of the sources cited within her articles, or perhaps book, with regards to the evidence for The Goddess in The Bible! Anyone, perchance, know of any others?]:

"The Other Bible" By Willis Barnstone
"The Hebrew Goddess" by Raphael Patai
"Sophia: Goddess of Wisdom" by Caitlin Matthews
"The White Goddess" by Robert Graves
"King Jesus" by Robert Graves
"The Chalice and the Blade" by Riane Eisler
"She Who Is" by Elizabeth A. Johnson
"Spirit Guides and Angel Guardians" by Richard Webster
"Sarah the Priestess" by Savina J. Teubal
"In the Wake of the Goddesses: Women, Culture and the Biblical
"Transformation of Pagan Myth" Tikva Frymer-Kensky
"The Complete Book by Spells, Ceremonies & Magic" by Migene Gonzalez-Wippler
"The Lost Gospel Q: The Original Sayings of Jesus" by Marcus Borg
"Meeting Jesus Again For the First Time" by Marcus J. Borg
"Bloodline of the Holy Grail" by Sir Laurence Gardner
"Genesis of the Grail Kings" by Sir Laurence Gardner
"The Woman with the Albaster Jar" by Margaret Starbird
"The Goddess in the Gospels" by Margaret Starbird
"Judaism" by Isidore Epstein
"Qabalistic Concepts" By William G. Gray
"The Elements of The Qabalah" by Will Parfitt
"When Women Were Priests" by Karen Jo Torjesen
"The Hiram Key" by Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas
"Christ the Eternal Tao" by Hieromonk Damascene
"The Magical Power of the Saints" by Rev. Ray T. Malbrough
"Angel Magic" By Geoffrey James
"Wicca: A Guide for the Solitary Practitioner" by Scott Cunningham
"Living Wicca: A Further Guide for the Solitary Practitioner" By Scott Cunningham
"Earth, Air, FIre & Water: More Techniques of Natural Magic" By Scott Cunningham
"Basic Magick: A Practical Guide" by Phillip Cooper
"Making Magick: What it Is and How it Works" by Edain McCoy
"The Sabbats: A New Approach to Living the Old Ways" by Edain McCoy
"Modern Magick" by Donald Michael Kraig
"Tetragrammaton" by Donald Tyson
"Stalking the Wild Pendulum" by Itzhak Bentov
"Women and Authority: Re-emerging Mormon Feminism" by Maxine Hanks
"God the Mother" by Janice Allred

[Here are some others I've found, but...still, looking for some very well respected sources and unbiased biblical scholars who are noit afraid to say that "based on this evidence, God is also a woman" or whatnot. As well as books which detail such evidence within either the dead sea scrolls or the unofficial canon of The Bible, which were removed from the Bib;e at one point in History, which are over 100 books, last I heard. As I've always said, I can never do anything half-way; I always have to be thorough and exhaustive! Heh heh heh...]:

* "The Hebrew Goddess", by Raphael Patai
* "When God Was A Woman", by Merlin Stone
* "Yahweh's Wife: Sex & the Evolution of Monotheism: A Study of Yahweh, Asherah, Ritual Sodomy & Temple Prostitution (Woman in History, Vol. 1)", by Arthur F. Ide
* "The Gospel of Mary Magdalene", by Jean-Yves Leloup
* "God Is A Woman", by L. Chase Scott
* "The History of Patriarchy", by Gerda Lerner
* "Gospel of the Gpddess: A Return to God the Mother", by William Bond & Pamela Suffield
* "Worship of the Serpent Traced Throughout the World & Its
Traditions Referred to the Events in Paradice", by John Deane
* "The Cult of the Black Virgin", by Ean Begg
* "The Lost Gospel: The Book of Q & Christian Origins", by Burton Mack

In service of The Goddess,
Rev. Wade

WiccanWade
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(8/12/03 11:23 pm)
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Re: Researching Eviddence for The Goddess in The Bible...
[Hey guys! Perhaps someone here could recommend me to some very well researched, and even respectibly unbiased sources, whereas The Bible is concerned, as well as rational thinking. Because, as a follower of the Wiccan faith, I am researching for a book I'd like to write, for those who might be drawn to my faith, cioming from a Judaic/monotheistic path. However, I came run accross a variety of passages in some pagan books, as well as some on-line articles, and would like to validate them (rather than just the author's say-so*) with rell respected, even scholarly, or well researched sources!

* I'm the sort who's big on citing my sources, and saying to the reader, "Don't take my word for it, go out and research it for yourself."

Anyway, here are the passages I was referring to. However, any other books you can glowingly recommend (based on my personal considerations), I'd be happy to know what they are! Also, I'm also looking to research The evodence for The Goddess in the dead sea scrolls, as well as the several books which were omitted from the official cannon (of which I hear are well over 100). What also interests me is how the various pagan deities eventually became the one, "monotheistic" Chritian Father God]:

"In Hebrew legends the all-powerful Yahweh was origionally the Goddess Iahu-'Anat, a name that was 'stolen from that of the Summarian Goddss.' The name Yahweh has also ben related to the Cannaanite moon deity, Yareah, who was possibly androgynous or bisexual. Even in Genesis we find indications that mother deities were present in the creation. In one of the two creation accounts, Elohim, the word translated as a singular 'God,' is actually a plural noun, and according to some biblical scholars would be better translated as 'creative nature spirits.' That Elohim was plural and partially feminine is clear from the words of Genesis that say, 'Let us make man in our image and likeness. Male and female He [!] created them.' If the 'image and likeness' of the creator is both male and female, we can assume that at least some of these 'creative nature spirits' had feminine natures."
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[Another thought I'd like toi research occured to me. I'd like to research, being that I am not that well versed in The Bible, nor biblical scholars, in the misnomer of satan. In that I have heard the concept of satan only dates from the late middle ages. And, the very term from which satan derives, is "ha-satan", which is Hebrew for something like "adversary of...", as well as any other evidence for the non-existance of stan or the Christian concept of "hell". Both concepts which I do not believe in, thankfully. ;o)]
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"Does the Bible offer any support for a female counterpart to God? Yes indeed! In fact, a very interesting statement was left in the Bible (Genesis 1:26, The New Jerusalem Bible, 1985) which supports a dualistic nature for God, namely:

'Let us make man in our own image,
in the likeness of ourselves ....'

"Pay heed that the above quote uses a plural reference to God. Naturally one wants to know about these other gods. Could it have been a mistake in the Bible? (Even this has not been proposed by the established church.) Or is this a reference to the doctrine of a 'triune' God, i.e., the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? No, it cannot be the Trinity either, FOR THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN THE NEW TESTEMENT MANY THOUSANDS OF YEARS LATER!"
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"Among the many revisions was the old Assyrian story of Adam and Eve, rewritten so that Eve is borne of Adam's rib rather than the reverse, as it appeared in the older version. In an old Mesopotamian legend, Eve creates a male, Adam, and makes him her mate, following the usual Goddess/Son myth."
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"In some of the books of the Judeo-Christian scriptures that were arbitrarily rejected from the official cannon, Adam admits that Eve is his superior. 'She taught me the word of knowledge.' In a Gnostic text, Eve is the Mother of All the Living and actually creates Jehova. It reads, 'He was was even ignorant of His own Mother....It was because He was foolish and ignorant of His Mother that He said, "I am God; there is none beside Me."' In some versions Eve chastices and punishes God for His cruewl treatment of human beings. Witches find it interesting that the name Jehova is formed by the 4 Hebrew letters Yod-He-Vau-He. The first, 'Yod,' means 'I,' the next 3 'He-Vau-He,' mean both 'life' and 'woman'. The Latin versions of these 3 letters is E-V-E. In oher words, the name Jehova is feminine, and it means 'I am woman; I am life.'"
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"Dig far enough back into any mythology, however refashioned by patriarchy, and the Primordial Mother is there. In Assyria, Tiamat was the primeval ocean from whos fertile depth sprang every living thing. (Tohu, the 'waters' of Genesis 1:2, is the Hebrew form of Tiamat.)....In the Hebrew tradition the primordial Mother survived as Lilith, transformed by patriarchy into a demoness. To the Gnostics, Sophia gave birth to the cosmos by self-induced orgasm, desiring 'to generate out of Herself without spouce.'"
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"The Hebrew Jarah, after whom Jericho is named, was Goddess of the new Moon and Bride of the Sun; Levanah, the Moon of the Song of Solomon, was also Chaldaean; and another Chaldaean Moon Goddess, Sirdu, the wife of the Sun God Shamash-Bubbar, may also have been the bride of the Hebrew God Iao (Yahweh)."
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"(Mount Sinai was named after Sin- the Middle Eastern Moon God, and the Levites were origionally Moon Priests, wearing the lunar crescents as a headdress.)"
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"...Ashera was worshipped in the Temple in Jerusalem, alongside Jehova, as His wife and sister.... And, the Essences, strict followers of the Law whos teachings greatly influenced Jesus, worshipped the Earthy Mothers and Her angels in polarity with the Heavenly Father and His angels."
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"...the Biblical flood story is a revision of the Ishtar one. She [Ishtar] inherited it from an earlier Babylonian Moon Goddess, Nuah, whos name, masculinized, is the obvious root of Noah.... Utnapishtim, the equivalent of Noah, had ben advised by the god Ea to build an ark.... According to one version (and the Noah origional), it is the Goddess Herself whom makes and sails the ark, and after the Flood had subsided, 'Then at last Ishtar also came, She lifted Her necklace withthe jewels of Heaven that once Anu had made to please Her: "O ye gods here present, by the lapis lazuli round my neck I shall rmemeber these days as I remember the jewels of my throat; these last days I shall not forget."' - a detail echoed by the rainbow of Genesis ix."
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"In Genesis 1:2 in the beginning, 'The Earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the Waters.' The word for 'deep' here is 'tehom', and for 'waers' 'tohu', Hebrew forms of Tiamat, the Goddess who personified the primordial from which all things sprang. (The Hebrew word for 'Spirit', incidentally, is also feminine in gender..."
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And...many of the references listed thrught the articles on this site (as there is no propper bibliography for each). For research, and validation (naturally):

* www.christianwicca.com/goddess.html
* www.christianwicca.com/gnostic.html
* www.christianwicca.com/ladygod.html
* www.christianwicca.com/ambrose.html
* www.christianwicca.com/demiurge.html
* www.christianwicca.com/books_mia.html
* www.christianwicca.com/te...maton.html
* www.christianwicca.com/tr...marys.html
* www.christianwicca.com/shehkina.html
* www.greaterthings.com/MormonGoddess/

Ariel Wyon Odin
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(8/13/03 3:26 pm)
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Re: Researching Eviddence for The Goddess in The Bible...
Merry meet,

I just want to clarify something before I go off to research some off the things you mentioned because some of them I have never heard of and I was Christian for all my life until 3 years ago when Wicca found me.

Just to clarify when you look at different passages, you must also take into consideration which version of the bible you are reading. There are many different bibles and many different versions with many different translations of what things "meant." Now I am off to do some digging.

Bright blessings
Ariel

sophia
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(9/29/03 1:37 pm)
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Hi, I just published a textbook that includes some of the information you are researching...Hebrew goddesses in the Old Testament; original Hebrew words in the Genesis creation story; Hochmah/Sophia in the Old Testament; the goddess of early Christianity, etc.... This book was released in July and already is receiving a lot of attention and positive feedback. In fact, some local "goddess" "wiccan" "new age" stores are excited about it and are stocking it and having me do booksignings as well as workshops on the book. I am overwhelmed, since it is a textbook and rather pricey for non-academic readers. At the end of each chapter I have included some additional source references (videos, websites, and books), also vocabulary terms, and study questions (which people in book clubs are interested in) and I include my references at the end of each chapter.

You can check out a synopsis of the book and the topics included in the book at my website (my husband did the illustrations for the book and prints from selected images will be available for sale soon). www.dreamachieverproductions.biz click on "Carmen's book". Ordering information directly from the publisher is included should you be interested.

The title of the book, by the way, is: "The Other Half of the World: Goddesses and Women in Prehistory, Antiquity, and the Middle Ages." by Carmen Myrtis-Garcia

I am grateful there is such a growing interest in the goddess (esp. when it comes to how her image has been devalued and even destroyed throughout time).

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Wiccan wade... where have I heard that name before... gopetition?


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Okay, now I don't mean to push buttons here, but if wiccan wade is, in fact a member here still, I would like to have an explanation. Gopetition.com, I have seen wiccan wade there, and am a little confused in regards to a few posts, and him being a member here. These are the posts I'm talking about:

Reply: Re: WHY?? by A Witch (09/05/03)

"Reverend" Wiccan Wade is a laugh. I can not believe that HE of all people, is yelling about copyright, especially because he is guilty of it countless times. I have had the "pleasure" of reading his "posts" and they are, quite frankly, ripped off from every author he can get his grubby little hands on.

He is a wanna-be Witch, who wouldn't know a real Witch until they smacked him upside the head. He has been annoying people for at least 3 years on-line now, first claiming to be 19 years old and living in his mother's basement "newbie", to now being 30 years old with a college degree and a "reverend" who worships Laurie Cabolt (of all people). Take what he says with a grain of salt.

Reply: Re: WHY?? by the one who knows (10/05/03)

I have made no claims to being a witch, nor do i claim to be one.


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Elshaddai
I love the name Elshaddai, Elshaddai is translated God Almighty, but if you dig deeper you will find that it is made up of three Hebrew words.

El~meaning God, Shad~meaning nursing breast, Dai~meaning more then enough.

God has to be our mother as well as our father because Jesus talked about being born again of the Spirit and only a mother can give birth. Plus the Apostle Paul and Peter talked of Spiritual milk and that is what a mother does give us milk when we are babies.

The thought of God being like a nursing mother comforts me.

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