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I3rown Eyed Girl
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(5/30/01 1:51 pm)


Need Advice? Step into my office.
Hey everyone! As most of you know, we are going to have an advice column in the OTL magazine. Well, I guess you can just consider me "Dear Angie" :lol because I will be writing for the column.

Trust me, I have been down that rode to Hell and back. And I can tell it like it is. ;) So any problems you have...bring them on over here and we will see if we can't find a solution. Have trouble in school? Falling in love with your ex's best friend? Falling in love with an enemy (i.e. PJ banter)? Or maybe you have your own "True Love" that you just can't seem to get over? Well, you are definitely in the right place. Just tell us all about it, and we'll help you find the answers.

Angie :)

OTL Counselor (hehe ;) )

"Now I miss you more than I missed you before and now where I'll find comfort, God knows. 'Cause you left me just when I needed you most."

Edited by: EviePJlvr at: 5/31/01 11:16:29 am
HeYSuGaR6814
Loves Pacey and Joey
Posts: 39
(5/30/01 5:33 pm)


Re: Need Advise? Step into my office.
Ohhh God, I dont know why Im about to put this out there for everyone and their mother to see but its all in the name of Pacey & Joey so here goes, you have been warned!

Okay..this would be classified as a classic Season 3 Pacey and Joey "I-love-this-person-but-they-have-no-clue-and-we're-just-friends" situation.

I met him a year ago this Friday at a party. Besides the fact that he was fine as all hell there was something else that just drew me to him, I dunno what it was, but I had never seen him before, so I introduced myself.
You gotta understand that this is not like me. Im the girl that stands across the room from the guy and makes sexy eyes until he comes to me, but this time I didnt care, I made the first move.

So I introduced myself and he introduced himself and we talked and we hung out (well hang out, we still see each other at least once a week) in the same circle of friends for the past year.

And when I tell you that from the first conversation we had I knew there was something there Im not exaggerating. Sometimes he gives me these lingering looks and theres just this all around "more than friends" vibe with him.

But anyway, slowly I found out that he's from a different state and he moved to where I live for a job. We have so much in common, he loves basketball, as do I. We both love the hot weather, the same kind of music, we love to dance and party, we both have a seriously spiritual side and we can just talk and laugh about anything. I dont know how to explain it, its just there ya know?

So anyway, this entire year Ive had the feeling more and more that he likes me romantically and something could come of it when the time was right, but I was never positive. Sometimes we would be talking about something and he'd randomly bring up how life owuld be when he's married! An example is that I commented that his job makes him really responsible and he said out of the blue "Well yea, Im going ot need to be like that for my wife". And he constantly brought up things like that around me, which I found odd. Something else is that my family adores him! And he loves my mom, since he lives here alone she invites him over all the time and feeds him, she treats him like her 3rd son (she already has 2 boy). Anyway, I got all kinds of advice from my friends, and truthfully, all signs pointed to yes, he likes me the way I like him.

Well recently I found out that he does think Im gorgeous and great to hang out with etc etc etc but he has a bit of a problem with our age difference. He's 23, about to be 24 in a few months and I am 18. On top of that, his little sister is older than me! Which I know cant help the situation.
I dont see age as a problem, especially when two people get along as well as we do, I feel that age is nothing but a number. So lately, Ive felt different about him, it kind of put me off that age was a problem to him, and I suddenly had a mortal fear that he would get a girlfriend and I would hate her guts (he hasnt had one since he's been here, so I havent had to deal with that, thank heavens).

God I know this is long winded but my problem is, even though I know he kind of sees a problem with age (Im saying kind of because i didnt hear this straight from him, my best friend who wouldnt lie told me) he still acts the same to me, and theres still this vibe between us that makes me think he really likes or even loves me, but the age thing is still in the back of my mind. I think thats probably the reason why nothing has happened between us. I know it bothers him ,at least a little, but Im still really not sure.
But like I said before, unless Im reading too much into this, theres still something there between us when we hang out or talk.
Kinda like it was with PAcey & Joey, it was just there until they couldnt deny it anymore. Well I hope thats how this turns out, I hope something is just there, and we both wont be able to deny it anymore, regardless of age etc.

Well the latest development was that last night he was over and we were hanging out and he official dubbed me his "little sister" and dubbed himself my "big brother".
I know I know! Its like "cue the death music, you're in the inescapable "little sister" zone", but I cant seem to let go of that little glimmer of hope that we could still get together, and I still feel something between us.

So what should I do? Should I really try to be his good friend, his "little sister" and move on. Or should I go with my instincts and hang on to that little glimmer of hope? I know I could go the "Pacey" route and just spontaneously declare my feelings...but i really cant do that... waaay too risky, because Id rather have it how it is now and let things develop than ruin anything if he doesnt feel the same, and truthfully, Im sure he has some idea that Im into him, I happen to be an unconscious flirt, I cant help it somtimes ;)

Im normally amazing at giving my friends advice but my own situation has stumped me. Advice Please :)

Edited by: HeYSuGaR6814 at: 5/30/01 8:38:00 pm
I3rown Eyed Girl
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Posts: 20
(5/30/01 7:20 pm)


Re: Need Advise? Step into my office.
Hey girl! I know exactly where you are coming from. And it probably won't be any consolation for me to let you know that I have been there *and* screwed up. But hindsight is 20/20. The one thing I would advise you *not* to do is to pretend that your relationship is something it isn't. If you don't feel sisterly toward him, don't slip into the habit of calling him your "brother". I have done that and many of my friends have as well, simply because you want to keep that close relationship. If you do that, you will wind up sending him mixed signals. It sounds like he is doing that now, actually. He is looking at you a certain way, or acting a certain way, then turning around and calling you "little sister." Chances are if he isn't gazing lovingly at his sister, that is probably not the way he really feels. He is probably just trying to ease the tension.

I know it would not be easy for you to lay it all out there, but perhaps your best choice is to tell him how you feel about him. Lack of communication is a very bad thing. You could be very open with him from the beginning. Tell him that you want to talk to him but you don't want anything you say to effect your friendship. I get the impression you want to protect that at all cost, and I can understand that.

If there is that much between the two of you that is unspoken, that could put a strain on your relationship without your realizing it. And if you two are good friends there should be no problem with your asking him if your age bothers him. You may want to remind him that the two of you are not 12 and 18. You are both adults now. I would not tell you that age does not matter, because it does when you are younger. But as you grow and mature, age becomes less of an issue. You are both young. And the 5-6 years between you should not be a factor.

There are a million things you could try, and I have tried them all. You could repress your feelings. You could flirt. Or even make the first move. But in my 20 years I have learned one thing about men. They are not as tough or fearless as we think. They are usually very afraid of rejection, and are not always comfortable with making the first move. He may even be stressed about your age because he thinks you would have a problem with it.

The best advise I can give you is to be honest with yourself and with him. And the absolute worse that could happen is that the two of you would remain friends.

I hope this has given you some insight.

Angie :)

"Now I miss you more than I missed you before and now where I'll find comfort, God knows. 'Cause you left me just when I needed you most."

Edited by: I3rown Eyed Girl at: 5/30/01 10:25:33 pm
HeYSuGaR6814
Loves Pacey and Joey
Posts: 40
(5/30/01 7:34 pm)


Re: Need Advise? Step into my office.
I am all smiles right now because Ive mulled over this in my head for so long. Your advice was really good Angie! I think I've known what you told me for a while but you kind of iced it for me. I should tell him. I know I should. I'm a very straight forward person, so the fact that it was so hard for me to even come to that decision in the first place shows how much I care about him. Your point about communication was really good. Thanks babe.
Kim

I3rown Eyed Girl
Magazine Staff and Mod!
Posts: 21
(5/30/01 10:02 pm)


Re: Need Advise? Step into my office.
Aww, Kim...I am so glad I could help some. Although I can't take all credit. I had Roxy helping me! Hehe. Keep us posted on what's going on. Good luck! I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

Angie :)

"Now I miss you more than I missed you before and now where I'll find comfort, God knows. 'Cause you left me just when I needed you most."

Edited by: I3rown Eyed Girl at: 5/31/01 1:07:55 am
HeYSuGaR6814 
Loves Pacey and Joey
Posts: 41
(5/31/01 6:43 pm)


Re: Need Advise? Step into my office.
Well In that case thanx to Roxy too.

And I hope everyone enjoyed that pathetic little glimpse into my love life ;)

EviePJlvr
Started Operation True Love
Posts: 86
(5/31/01 6:46 pm)


Re: Need Advise? Step into my office.
I love that banner Kim! I admit I need to scroll up and read your entire post. I will when I make myself unbusy. But I just wanted to come over here and encourage everybody to post!

Ask Angie for help! Hmmm... I have a problem. Why is it that I give myself too much to do? Then I start making myself so extremely stressed out and nervous that I almost forget to have fun while doing it. What should I do?

Thanks,
Evie

I3rown Eyed Girl
Magazine Staff and Mod!
Posts: 25
(6/1/01 1:24 pm)


Re: Need Advice? Step into my office.
Evie,

Oh goodness! I do that too. You should probably just stop yourself and actually think about what you are saying before you volunteer to do something. That is what I have had to start doing. Cause I would always volunteer to take on so much that I couldn't enjoy it for rushing and stressing. So the answer is probably pacing yourself. And try not to take on too much at one time. But when you find yourself overwhelmed just take a few deep breaths, then take each thing one at a time and get it done. Cause the worst thing you could do is to try and do everything at once. I have done that too. :) LOL! Good luck! And don't stress!

Angie :)

::walks over and opens the door::

Next??? :)

"Now I miss you more than I missed you before and now where I'll find comfort, God knows. 'Cause you left me just when I needed you most."

I3rown Eyed Girl
Magazine Staff and Mod!
Posts: 29
(6/30/01 11:06 pm)


Last Call For Alcohol...
...lol! Well, last call for advise (to be included in the mag). I am just finishing up the first draft of the advise column. It still needs some work but by this time tomorrow I hope to be done with it. So far I have Kim's, Evie's, and Adrienne's (which is not posted). But I am going to have to shorten parts and lengthen others...and can make room (I believe) if anyone else wants to cough up a problem. :) And of course if you have a problem and do not want it to be included in the mag I will always be around to help. :) I love this advise-giving thing. Anyway, gonna run for now. Love y'all! And thanks to those of you who are contributing!

Angie :)

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