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ThisbeCiel
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(4/6/05 8:16 pm)
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Jane Eyre- the book
I am posting this here, first cause there is nothing here, and second cause since this is technically devoted to the miniseries, this is off topic.

So I have of course read and re-read JE many times and the first few times I read it, I always thought that, when Rochester proposes to Jane, Jane had no clue that Rochester was in love with her. Somewhere along the way, I changed my mind and decided that she did know but thought he just wanted to make her his mistress. (which he did actually...) But I've seen a lot of remarks made by people who seem to think that she didn't have a clue. The only concrete example I can think of right now is in that criticism of JE and Vanity Fair made in the 1800s that PhilosopherCat posted. Granted that article is riddled with inaccuracies, but it is just an example.

So what do ya'll think?

Philosopher Cat 
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(4/6/05 10:53 pm)
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the proposal
I don't think she let's herself believe that he loves her. There's a point just after she hears that he has gone to the Lees (sp?) where she forces herself to see all of the attention he has paid her- not to mention that whole scene after the fire ;) - as just kindness on his part. She knows how dangerous it can be for her to fall in love with a man she cannot have, and tries to see everything as though he's just a very kind master. Yet, she has to force herself to look at things like this. She's very intuitive, and her intuition about him says he loves her- although she never tells the reader this. She just hints at how she felt that they were of the same kind- and compares his reactions to Blanche with his reactions to herself and concludes from these that he doesn't love Blanche.

Then there's the fact that he has to tell her several times that he is serious. I don't think that the idea that he wanted her to be his mistress was an issue for her before the proposal. And just afterwards, she is more concerned that he might just be infatuated.

What I've been wondering about that scene is wether or not Mr. Rochester decided to propose just then. It could go either way. I'd say 'yes' but there are times when I think perhaps it wasn't so planned afterall.

ThisbeCiel
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(4/7/05 12:31 am)
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Re: the proposal
The thought that she might be afraid that he was only infatuated with her never crossed my mind. I could see that as valid because she says as much later on. The quote that really got me going on this is "Do you think I can stay to become nothing to you?" Meaning that she was something to him before? But then again, she says that his love will effervesce, so that she still thinks he is just infatuated with her, but she will still marry him. And the scenes in the carriage with Mr. Rochester wanting to buy her stuff and make her a 2nd Danae and the seraglio is like a mistress allusion. So it seems to me that Jane was foremost afraid that he would make her his mistress, if not in reality, in his attitude toward her.

I can also see that the proposal scene might not have happened, because I think that Mr. Rochester was determined to make her confess her love for him first before saying anything. So if she did not say anything, then he wouldn't have. Which makes me think of Villette. I am planning to read it again but I have so many other books that I haven't touched, but I will get to reading it again. So from my dim memory, I think that Villette is a story of missed opportunities. Kind of like what would have happened to Jane Eyre if she hadn't said anything to Mr. Rochester. Reading Villette made me feel sorry for Charlotte Bronte, because in the beginning life was so full of hope and it reflected in Jane Eyre, and then she must have been full of sorrows and regrets, reflected in Villette. I just want to hug Charlotte and tell her it will be alright. :lol Eh, but what do I know, I am a "neophyte, that have not passed the porch of life."

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