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Detia1
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(11/25/01 10:43 pm)
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Achieving kyven
kyven - ky (spirit) ven (bond): a special spiritual bond between life mates and/or lovers. It’s almost like empathy or telepathy. The lovers can sense what the other is feeling even over great distances. They can also ’touch’ one another’s souls. Sort of like making love spiritually. It’s very rare for a couple to achieve kyven. It is believed that you can only achieve kyven with your one true love. Lady Baca and Master Hajin had achieved kyven. Camiel will achieve kyven with her one true love.

Charra Loon
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(11/28/01 4:47 pm)
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Re: Achieving kyven
Hmm...kyven...Dee, are you thinking what I'm thinking? This would be so perfect for our project! Uh...just one thing; how does a couple achieve kyven?

Detia1
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(11/28/01 7:26 pm)
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Re: Achieving kyven
It's achieved intentionally through meditating with each other or unintentionally through 'dream visitation'. Both experiences can be pretty intense.

KM20
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(11/28/01 11:23 pm)
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Dream ?
Speaking of dreams... I was wondering if you had a Mua word for 'dream' for the Chichu replacement? I chose that word because, of course, that's how she came to me.

Detia1
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(11/29/01 12:05 am)
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Re: Dream ?
Sumar

KM20
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(11/29/01 12:22 am)
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Dream ?
Thanks. I'm working on a photo for her reply to Tkkla's personal ad. I think I'm going to look at acctual personal ads to write for her.

Charra Loon
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(11/29/01 3:37 pm)
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Re: Achieving kyven
Okay...so what's 'dream visitation'?

Detia1
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(11/29/01 3:50 pm)
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Re: Achieving kyven
When the two lovers 'get together' in each other's dreams. It's not like normal dreaming where you just dream about each other. They actually share the same dream. Sort of like soul touching, but while you're asleep.

Detia1
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(12/18/01 7:34 pm)
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Re: Achieving kyven
Sumar akit is the Mua term for 'dream visitation.' Sumar gom is the 'dream touch.' Ku gom is the 'soul touch.' Just a note so you'll know what Cami is talking about later on in "Love Quest."

Edited by: Detia1 at: 12/18/01 7:36:47 pm
Charra Loon
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(12/19/01 6:12 pm)
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Re: Achieving kyven
Okay, soul touch, dream touch...how do you do all of that stuff, anyways?

Detia1
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(1/12/02 12:48 pm)
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Re: Achieving kyven
The kyven bond is sealed the first time the couple makes love. Soul touching: it's similar to telepathy. They touch each other with their thoughts. You know, to let the other knw they are on his/her mind. Dream touching is about the same but in their sleep.

Charra Loon
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(1/14/02 8:47 am)
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Re: Achieving kyven
So things are a little loose, now. Is it posssible for soul touching and dream touching to be active before the kyven bond is sealed? After the sealing, will there be more control? Sorry for babbling...

Edited by: Charra Loon at: 1/18/02 8:10:20 pm
Mikel30
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(1/18/02 8:15 pm)
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Re: Achieving kyven
Yeah, it's possible. In fact, Cami and Sh'Ekrah have already been doing that. It's hinted at in Love Quest.

Edited by: Mikel30 at: 1/18/02 8:16:18 pm
Detia1
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(1/18/02 8:29 pm)
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Re: Achieving kyven
Mik's right. They already had several dream touches and dream visitations before they met at Sh'Ekrah's cave.

Charra Loon
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(1/23/02 2:09 pm)
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Re: Achieving kyven
Okay, let me rephrase that; what is the difference between an unsealed kyven bond and a sealed kyven bond?

Detia1
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(1/23/02 4:20 pm)
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Re: Achieving kyven
An unsealed bond can be broken, (ie if the couple breaks up, or one partner dies), but a sealed bond cannot be broken.

Charra Loon
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(1/31/02 2:40 pm)
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Re: Achieving kyven
Okay, I get that, but do the strengths and control of the soul touch, dream touch and dream visitation vary between an unsealed bond and sealed bond?

Detia1
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(1/31/02 5:02 pm)
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Re: Achieving kyven
A sealed bond is stronger and can be controled better.

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